SNP MPS TO BACK ALBA BILL FOR TRANSFER OF POWER TO HOLD INDEPENDENCE REFRENDUM
Introducing his Scotland (Self Determination) Bill in the House of Commons today (Wednesday 1 February) which has the support of SNP MPs Joanna Cherry KC MP, Douglas Chapman MP and Angus Brendan MacNeil MP, ALBA Westminster Leader Neale Hanvey MP will state:
Mr. Speaker
I beg to move, That leave be given to bring in a Bill to amend the Scotland Act 1998 to transfer the power to legislate for a Scottish independence referendum to the Scottish Parliament; to provide that such power may only be exercised where the Scottish public has demonstrated its support for the holding of such a referendum; to provide that no such referendum may be held sooner than seven years following any previous such referendum; and for connected purposes.
The question of whether the ancient nation of Scotland should be an independent country once again continues to be the subject of much debate, indicating that the matter is far from settled. Of course, it is entirely proper for any country to review such matters because Scotland will only become independent, as and when, a majority of the people of Scotland choose that path.
Yet this requires a democratic mechanism that is constitutional and satisfies international legal precedent.
This Bill seeks to standardise and codify such a requirement in line with,
The motion passed by this House which endorsed the principles of the 1989 Claim of Right and which acknowledged “the sovereign right of the Scottish people to determine the form of government best suited to their needs.”
The Bill is explicit on the necessary conditions to bring this mechanism into play.
Firstly, that the power to legislate for a referendum requires a democratic mandate from the Scottish public to do so.
Since 2014 that criterion has been met in successive general elections to the Scottish Parliament, most recently in 2021 where a majority of MSPs were elected on a manifesto commitment to deliver an independence referendum. In addition to this a majority of the votes cast on the D’Hondt regional list were won by parties that support Independence – the SNP, the Scottish Green Party and ALBA party.
Secondly, This Bill states that no such referendum may be held any sooner than seven years after any previous such referendum.
In terms of established UK precedent this would bring Scotland into line with the provisions for a border poll in Northern Ireland regarding the constitutional future of the island of Ireland.
And as Robert McCorquodale, Professor of International Law and Human Rights, sets out this would be in keeping with the UK’s international legal obligations applicable “to all states, including to peoples within states… worldwide to seek to exercise their right to self-determination.”
Mr. Speaker, it is necessary to put this Bill into its political and historical context.
In 1707 a majority of Scottish Parliamentarians may have been persuaded, but the people were never consulted.
The Acts of Union 1707 between England and Scotland created the Kingdom of Great Britain establishing a single political entity, yet preserving the territorial, legal and institutional integrity of each partner country.
The UK’s constitution is not codified in a single document, so the question of whether the Acts of Union can be unilaterally dissolved by one party is not clear. However, the accepted position hitherto is that the union is a voluntary association of equal partners, and that Scotland has an unquestioned right of self-determination.
And, that is a right underpinned by Scots common law which rests not on the Magna Carta, but on the Claim of Right which continues to assert that it is the people who are sovereign.
The Scotland Act of 1998 established the Scottish Parliament, which has the power to legislate on agreed devolved matters within Scotland, while the UK parliament retains legislative competency on matters reserved to Westminster.
It is generally understood that for a country to gain independence there requires to be a legal process, such as a vote in a referendum. Such a process was established in 2012 through the Edinburgh Agreement which was signed by First Minister Alex Salmond and Prime Minister David Cameron.
The Edinburgh Agreement established a clear process whereby a Scottish General Election that returned a government with a mandate for an independence referendum would enable that government to petition for authority under Section 30 of the Scotland Act to respect the democratic force of that vote in a referendum.
While respect for this established process has since been affirmed by the UK Government, in absence of any legal constitutional consensus the matter of Scottish Independence has reached a political impasse to the detriment of Scotland’s democratic process.
This Bill seeks to remedy that by setting out the process by which the democratic wishes of the people of Scotland can be respected and enacted. This would preserve their inalienable human rights as a distinct people of the ancient nation of Scotland in accordance with the constitutional tradition of Scotland, the UN Charter and extant international law.
Scotland’s Constitutional Tradition
Scotland’s distinct constitutional tradition is best expressed by Lord Cooper, in the case of MacCormick v Lord Advocate,
“The principle of the unlimited sovereignty of Parliament is a distinctively English principle, which has no counterpart in Scottish constitutional law.”
And in the pleadings of the hon and learned Member for Edinburgh South West (Joanna Cherry) in her prorogation case to the UK Supreme Court, it is noted that the 1707 parliamentary Union between England and Scotland may have created a new state but it did not create one nation.
The UK government enthusiastically claims it seeks to preserve democracy the world over, yet it has moved to block Scotland’s consistently expressed democratic aspirations, at each and every turn.
Surely it is now time to move to eliminate accusations and counter accusations of brinkmanship and set out a clear pathway consistent with precedent across these islands where constitutional friction exists.
Can Members opposite imagine the circumstances where, having entered the common market and ratified every, subsequent treaty – leading to the European Union – the EU Parliament moved to block or interfere with their Brexit vote, or set a limit on when and if such a vote could be held?
The notion is, of course, ludicrous, because democracy is not a single event but an evolving and continuous process. That is how civilised people behave, and how fundamental rights of freedom of thought and expression are peacefully demonstrated.
As a member of the EU, the UK Government possessed and exercised a veto, yet claimed its sovereignty was impeded by membership. Scotland has no such equivalent mechanism available to our people and remains subject to the wiles of its larger neighbour, exemplified by Brexit.
How does that constitute access to meaningful political process, as claimed in the recent UK Supreme Court judgement?
Self Determination
Prime Minister Winston Churchill’s signing of the 1941 Atlantic charter brought into being the principle of self-determination of peoples, as now enshrined in the United Nations charter.
Margaret Thatcher in her memoirs said of Scotland:
“As a nation, they have an undoubted right to national self-determination.”
John Major, when Prime Minister, said of Scotland:
“No nation could be held irrevocably in a Union against its will.”
None of these senior conservative politicians’ sough to constrain the democratic right to self-determination.
In the aftermath of the 2014 referendum, the all-party Smith commission agreement was signed by all of Scotland’s main political parties and it stated:
“It is agreed that nothing in this report prevents Scotland becoming an independent country in the future should the people of Scotland so choose.”
Northern Ireland.
The effect of this bill should be uncontroversial for every member, it merely establishes in law an equivalent mechanism to the principle, already conceded by the UK Government, in relation to a border poll in Northern Ireland, that no such referendum may be held sooner than seven years after any previously mandated referendum.
In 1889 in this place the equality of UK Partner countries was asserted by one William Ewart Gladstone MP, saying “I am to suppose a case in which Scotland unanimously, or by a clearly preponderating voice, were to make the demand on the United Parliament to be treated, not only on the same principle, but in the same manner as Ireland, I could not deny the title of Scotland to urge such a claim.”
This begs the question. Why would the UK Government deny democracy to Scotland but not to Northern Ireland?
Could the clue lie in the words of former Prime Minister John Major from 1993’s Downing Street Declaration that the UK has “no selfish strategic or economic interest in Northern Ireland” whereas, in the case of Scotland the opposite is true, where unconstrained access to our vast resources, energy is transmitted south to millions at no cost.
Conclusion.
Mr Speaker, the decision on Scotland’s future ultimately and rightly must rest in the hands of the people of Scotland. And in the constitutional tradition of popular sovereignty in our great country, it is the Scottish people who remain sovereign.
This Bill is neutral in its effect. It favours neither once side nor the other, but it seeks to codify the Scottish people’s right to choose their own constitutional future.
To return to 1889, Dr Gavin Clark, MP for Caithness said “Everybody, even old Tories on the other side, must admit that some change is necessary. Then what is the remedy to be?”
If democracy matters at all, every member in this house should support the remedy contained in this Bill regardless of their view on Scottish independence.
I commend it to the House.
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Well said Neale Hanvey.
It was well said and well argued.
Since it was not even supported by most SNP MPs, it will most probably be defeated.
Still, I suppose it lays down another marker that Scotland is not in a “voluntary” Union
It also shows the people of Scotland which party is putting Scotland first and which party is putting their leader and party first.
In my mind the bottom line is. Alex Salmond / Alba and all other Scottish political parties do not support the peoples Sovereignty. They support continuation of the illegal English system of Parliamentary Sovereignty.
Without the restoration of our constitution Scottish people as now will have no protection who have gone off the rails. We have no means to hold them to account. And further more we as now would not be in a position to assert that our resources belong to the Scottish people.
Salvo Liberation.scot is the only way to cross the line to re- independence with our invoiable constitution rights restored and politicians accountable to us. Anything else as now leaves us as a hollow shell of a nation.
Beware false prophets, rely on ourselves sign Liberation.scot
Salvo I am sorry to say is an illusion. It is more of an academic study than a reality. Whatever we do it will be down to a political outcome,that is the reality. There are no magic bullets.
Absolutely right, Salvo is little more than wishful thinking with neither evidence nor fact to back it. My major anxiety is that it is an unhelpful distraction to the cause of independence – if you rely on an argument that is inherently weak, indeed that can too easily be shown to be false, you tend to lose not only your case, but also your credibility.
I agree with you 100% it is a distraction.
I honestly don’t care how or who gets us there. I simply want SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE!
Hola, some important comments to share from across the political spectrum…
“If you’re going to Glasgow at the weekend, make sure your tetanus is up to date and don’t forget your sanitiser, because according to this tweet furries left one hotel “stinking of literal shit, left used diapers in hallways & on other paying guests cars, wore diapers around hotel in front of guests & staff. Reports of sexual assault, drugs & nudity in the hallway…”
https://twitter.com/brocflower/status/1618670357845807104
“I plan to attend the ‘Standing For Women’ event on 5 February. I hope that many Wings readers will be able to attend. I’ll be keeping my eyes peeled and phone camera at the ready, to alert the attending police if necessary. One thing for sure: these people will not intimidate me. Just to finish – I was in the female toilets at a Glasgow Waterstones’ shop a couple of weeks ago. One cubicle had trans activist stickers, the seat put up male-fashion and urine sprayed across the floor. Talk about animals ‘marking’ (what is not their) territory.”
It makes you wonder if these persons are being primed for some kind of intentionally aggravated event come the weekend… remember when another bunch of hooligans got hold of George Square and reeked havoc as ‘part’ of their Fest!
If anybody is going along could I suggest turning up to face em, smile, then non-confrontationally turning your backs to em. They/them may be looking to be provoked towards any potential ulterior motive and this would totally wind them/they up. You can then record any possible hissypissy-fits over your shoulder from your cameraphones. Heck, bring a long a chair with ye an take the weight aff yer feet.
Please notify me of future posts
Additionally, what if there were a 100 of our finest kilted pipers there in the Square? Ye ken how the pleats in this story unfold. What could ye do ‘Wi’ a 100 Pipers’? Scotland’s new National Anthem is attached.
I simply want SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE 2.
SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE 1 was in effect from the Year 0000 till the late 18th Century.
SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE 2 comes back into effect when the Scottish people say Yes.
What other worldly countries are still in a ‘political union’ with another, here in this 21st Century?
Independence is normal and I fully endorse this bill to parliament by Neale and Alba, thanks.
Have since watched Neale deliver his impressive speech in Westminster and was happy to see a number of SNP MPs giving him support – along with Angus, Joanna and Douglas. Things are improving.
This is surely the most significant initiative relating to Scottish independence in Westminster since 2014. So where were the forty-odd SNP MPs?
This was a gift-wrapped opportunity for the SNP to recover some credibility as an indy-supporting party. Imagine a phalanx of all SNP MPs, press releases, interviews on the green outside Westminster, supporting debate in Holyrood etc, etc – that would have resonated more than Blackford’s “Scotland will not stand for . . .” However, the Bain Principle has been replaced by the Wishart Principle stipulating that no proposal by Alba, whatever its merits, will on any account be supported by the SNP.
If the SNP had been seriously interested in independence, would every SNP member not have been whipped to be in attendance to give maximum support and publicity?
Traitors to the cause; the near boycott by the SNP was about on a parallel with the BBC’s blackout of this event on the Scottish TV news bulletin.
For god’s sake, Sturgeon, when the blue blazes are you going to start doing the job you were elected to do????
Answer is,she never will, she has to go.
Earlier this week the SNP’s Deputy leader and Justice Secretary said the rapist was a woman.
Today at FMQ’s Sturgeon refuses to say if the rapist is a man or a woman. She says there is insufficient evidence to make that decision. How the hell did she make that decision about her husband. What an embarrassment she is to Scotland. She also was happy to throw her Deputy under the bus for following the strict self ID line.
It’s bad enough Sturgeon has no intention of delivering independence but she is now embarrassing Scotland.
Sturgeon has turned a fine party of independence into a sad sick joke. Was that her secret plan all along?