Every opinion poll since 2014 has shown that support for independence remains the preferred option for the Scottish voters. This in itself is amazing when you consider that there has been no official campaigning on independence since September 2014!
The SNP and Greens rolling out the independence word in their manifestos every election is not a campaign. From the 1970s the SNP was campaigning every day for independence. That is why in 2007 the party won its first ever General election. Since then it has won every election, sadly though from the day Sturgeon took over the party independence campaigning ceased. Worse still she began a campaign of attacking those that did attempt to campaign for independence.
She has never attended an AUOB March and rally. She didn’t even send her deputies with a message of support for the marchers. These are the hardcore independence supporters and campaigners and she disowned them. In fact it became the ‘party thing’ to attack them and those of us in the pro-independence media that were pushing the cause.
That was amplified when the pandemic began and Sturgeon became ‘Chief Mammy.’ At her daily press conferences she only invited pro-unionist rags to hear her pearls of wisdom and her personal suffering. Worse still her government gave that same anti- Scottish media grants to help them with their lost revenues during covid. Protect the enemies of Scotland and destroy the champions of Scotland was her way.
This was all part of her plan to destroy the Yes Movement. The reason; she couldn’t micro manage it, nor control it and switch it from independence to gender movement! She and her embezzling husband orchestrated the demise of all that had made independence possible post 2014! The campaigning for the cause that had given the SNP its status was stopped. Big mistake, it worked then, and it would work now!
That split today manifests itself in the latest polling for Westminster. While support for independence is at 52%, support for the SNP is at 29%. This though, because of the vagries of FPTPÂ voting is not an issue, the SNP will make huge gains because Labour has fallen to 18%!
If the SNP began a campaign today, I truly believe by the time the bells ring on Hogmanay independence would be sitting at 60%+. If we held a Constitutional Convention for the entire movement, it would sell-out in minutes. The people are ready, the problem is the leading independence party is sitting in neutral as it has been since November 2014.
Other polling this week showed that over 40% of Scots are now in favour of a UDI route to independence. Something that a couple of years ago would have had you in the ‘nutters section’ of the movement is now mainstream. It shows that the people are desperate and are willing to explore any avenue that could take us out of the union. An electoral event, followed by UDI is now the preferred and only credible route to self-determination.
As with all the initiatives for independence the SNP distances itself from all of them. Inadvertently or otherwise the SNP have become the roadblock to independence. The Union’s greatest defence against Scottish secession is not the House-Jock political parties, it is the SNP!
This is the main topic of our podcast this week. I am joined by Terry Howson, Eva Comrie and Phil Boswell to discuss this and other matters that are viewed Through A Scottish Prism.
The NuSnp are not fit for purpose, what we do need if there are any left in the NuSnp is the real Independence MP’s and MSP’s to walk away, get involved with Independence movement and form one credible Indy Party, they must be open and truly honest with the people and explain to those who doubt Indy why it will work truthfully, it is the only way forward do with the NuSnp what we did to Labour
I have always wondered if MI5 /the Establishment were involved – bribery? Backmail? Not attending AUOB marches and trying to destroy the man who had led Scotland to the brink of independence by using character assassination and foul lies to attempt to get him imprisoned… it still seems to me that she was a quisling paid to destroy the independence movement. It was getting too close for the establishment to allow the loss of its Cash Cow.
Excellent show guys. Great to hear you talking about UDI – I’d only add the specificity of #SCOTTISH UDI, as what’s conceived is different from, eg the Rhodesia version.
Also definitely progress that this idea getting more traction within the broader Independence demographic – and not before time.
I believe this reflects the growing awareness/acknowledgement that the Brit State will NEVER willingly accede to the restoration of Scotland’s stolen & sold status as an Independent Nation – in fact, will never even * allow * another Referendum on the issue.
If this is the case, maybe the next stage will be arriving at the related recognition that the current SNP are hopelessly ineffectual, corrupted and the most insidious obstacle to achieving our goal
It is the only viable route to independence? No it isn’t. It is one route. Not the only route. Likewise, Scotland is not breaking from a parent country. It is restoring it’s full statehood by terminating a bilateral treaty. That is restoration not secession.
A convention of the realm is the way to go but not with gatekeepers. The movement needs its business, legal, economic and civic sectors to get together and collectively utilise Scots sovereign authority. The government has constitutionally abdicated it’s solemn duty. Therefore, it falls on the ordinary sovereign people’s of Scotland to uphold their Constitutional, sovereign and fundamental rights. In a couple months time they may also have the international recognition that many believe they require before they will act. The clock is ticking for those who seek to bring Scotland perpetually under English governance.
Was a good podcast today. While I disagree with a sole route, it was good to hear the constitution of Scotland being raised along with Scots sovereign authority. The route via majority delegation at state Parliament with a majority admin at Holyrood has been tried but dismissed by the SNP who the people believed would deliver. 56/59 MPs AND a majority admin was attained. It meant nothing. The constitutional abdication by both tiers of Scottish government leaves no room to utilise the political structures which are beholden to England. This means reverting Scots sovereign authority to the people where it constitutionally rests. Steps are being taken by not just Liberate Scotland and Salvo but civilians exercising their fundamental, sovereign constitutional rights also. Differences in approach do not mean that we disagree with the core policy. That Scotland rejects the systemic and generational treaty breaches and over reach by England and as such seeks to end the union. What should have been a partnership between equal peers was never meant to be dominion by one party to the treaty. Hopefully more will be discussed by the panel regarding Scotland’s constitutional law, it’s sovereign authority and the fundamental rights of the people. Scotland is not seeking to break from a parent country. (Great Britain is the creation) it is seeking to RESTORE its full statehood that was usurped by the illegal Unilateral simple majority vote imposed on the state Parliament by England prior to the systemic deconstruction of Scotland’s legal personality and implementation of English parliamentary conventions. (the UK written constitution being essentially the last piece they need to remove Scots constitutional law, sovereign authority and fundamental rights by replacing with English parliamentary sovereignty and English constitutional structure while retroactively giving credence to the systemic and generational treaty breaches from 1707 to present.)
That is my contention Gaylee, none of us know all the answers as individuals. However, I believe as a collective the sovereign people of Scotland can come up with a solution to our dilemma. Those that think they have the silver bullet and carry on in isolation are not driving us forward they are sliding us down. We need unity and h ity of purpose our independence IMHO is multi faceted and needs multiple coordinated actions
Hopefully the response from the UN in a couple months time to my petition, should they find in favour, will provide the next and most crucial step forward. Now is the time to prepare for whichever way the findings go.
” Differences in approach do not mean that we disagree with the core policy. ”
If only we could gather the entire Pro-Independence Demographic and blast that sentence to it a maximum volume.
One of the * depressing * – certainly deeply frustrating aspects of our current condition is self-limiting oppositional thinking, eg ” we’re doing/thinking * this *, so you can’t do/think * that * “- aye, says who?
Equally * depressing * is the constant – often dumbly ignorant – sniping at, eg Salvo/Liberation’s UN Initiative & ATLS from WITHIN the Independence Demographic. FFS! as if we don’t have enough circling hyenas always waiting for their opportunity to exploit any weakness, without having to counter venomous serpents within our own * garden *.
Well said
” Well said” without even a hint of irony , I remember a couple of years ago , myself and the poster Robert Hughes who you were praising , were promoting the benefits of SALVO and Liberation.Scot to you , you took one of your usual berkies and ridiculed us both stating that we could believe in some airy fairy fantasy group but you wouldn’t give them the time of day , Oh how things change , now you are all about supporting them
I noticed in the weekend Prism that you were up to your usual childish retorts , at 40.20 min saying you had a poster that you wouldn’t name who believed that we should all vote for you for independence then you would implement your own policies , you then called that poster stupid and an idiot , can I ask you , have you been hiding under a rock for your 70 years because THAT is exactly what politicians have been doing for decades , they announce a mandate to the electorate of what they will do when they get into power , then when they get into power they IMPLEMENT their POLICIES which are totally different to what they promised they would do
Case in point YOUR snp who PROMISED independence for the last 12 years in every manifesto YET all they have done is introduce their own DEVIANT and PERVERTED policies that the majority of the electorate despise and abhor
SO who is actually STUPID and an IDIOT
The ONLY way we will get independence is by the majority of people voting for it in a plebiscite election , but the discrepancy between people who want independence for Scotland 52% and the people who vote snp 29% will continue to widen , the only way to FORCE the snp to comply with the indy movement is to THREATEN their hegemony and their fat salaries and pensions , this can only be done by a mass movement of indy supporters who believe in DIRECT DEMOCRACY (where the people are REALLY SOVEREIGN) and they are sick of snp corruption and incompetence
You asked me what was my plan , I approached yourself , Eva Comrie ,Iain Lawson , Stuart Campbell , Grousebeater ,in the run up to the 2021 election and I asked for assistance to set up a downloadable pro forma where voters can threaten sturgeon that if she didn’t ditch the GRRA bill the HCB and put independence front and centre at that election they would NOT vote for the snp , I hadn’t the ability to set the form on the internet and received no response for help , needless to say sturgeon romped home
A Copy of a proposed pro forma 2020
This Is Really Taking Back Control
A Declaration And Statement Of Intent
This declaration is addressed to Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP party
It is with reluctance that I
AddressÂ
hereby declare that I and my extended family and friends will NOT vote for the SNP in any forthcoming elections unless and until Nicola Sturgeon or any subsequent leader of the SNP removes the GRA Bill and the Hate Crime Bill proposals until independence where they can be debated and voted on by Scottish citizens only , and also states categorically and in writing , that all future Scottish and UK parliamentary elections which the SNP participates in will be fought and contested on the basis , that it is a plebiscite that if the SNP are elected to power with a majority as the Scottish Government they will immediately suspend the treaty of union and negotiate the disbursement of all assets and debts . A referendum will also be held within 2 years by the Scottish Government to ratify the decision taken by the electorate where an opportunity will also be available to vote for a re negotiation of a NEW treaty of union if voters indicate that that would be a preference for the majority of voters
And in 2024 a copy of a pro forma for swinney
FINAL WARNING
DECLARATION OF DEMAND AND INTENT
To John Swinney and the hierarchy of the SNP political party, currently the
Scottish Government, I lay out my demands to you
I (Insert Name) residing at (Insert Address) a constituent and voter within
Scotland advise that you take notice of what is being demanded of you and your
party, failure to do so will result in the loss of your very substantial financial
rewards and your well remunerated package by the removal of your position as
a political party representative seeking re-election as the Scottish Government
or as a member of the Scottish Parliament
I am a committed and dedicated supporter of independence for Scotland and I
am outraged and disgusted that the SNP management has chosen to select
policies and decisions contrary to the wishes of the electorate and completely
outwith the mandates they were given to drive forward independence for
Scotland
Successive First Ministers have chosen to ignore the demands and wishes of the
independence seeking electorate focusing instead on personal fringe issue
policies that are only relevant to a minority of the Scottish public, whereas the
desperate independence of Scotland and the ability to create a fairer more
prosperous , just and equal country for all Scottish citizens is being sidelined
and ignored
The concentration and fixation on reviled and dividing policies against the
wishes of the electorate is enabling the enemies of Scotland to capitalise on the
fragmentation of the independence movement ,which must stop immediately
Westminster and all unionist parties continue to undermine and denigrate
Scotland and Scots demands , ridiculing and insulting our SNP representatives
unrelentingly and without adequate challenge
With these substantial points in mind I demand that the First Minister and
leader of the SNP state publicly and unequivocally that for the forthcoming
Scottish election and any subsequent elections the SNP will be uniting with
other independence seeking parties to nominate one independence seeking
candidate for each of the constituency votes and the regional votes throughout
Scotland, if the chosen independence seeking candidates are successful in
winning the majority of seats and the majority of votes , that will trigger an
automatic declaration of intent to hold negotiations with WM on the
disbursement of joint resources
I also demand that John Swinney and the hierarchy of the SNP immediately
announce the formation of a convention of independent independence groups
and organisations which will be operational within the next 2-3 months and will
be independent and unaligned to or restricted by any political party
In conjunction with the convention I demand that MSPs implement without
delay the UN International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR),
Failure to accept and act on my demands will result in my refusal to vote for
any member or representative of the SNP in any and all forthcoming elections
Signed
IF all the independence bloggers got together and hosted an agreed downloadable form to THREATEN the snp’s actions on indy to be sent to their respective MP’s and MSP’s I believe even the sycophants and apologists would participate
Am I, are you sure?